...the hell?
Sep. 30th, 2006 01:59 amDoes anybody here remember the first few days of the invasion of Iraq?
A group of US soldiers took a wrong turn and ran into a larger force of Iraqis. Some were killed in the ensuing fight, and several more were captured in various states of injury.
Saddam's government, which had not yet completely disintegrated, broadcast video of these captives on TV. They were fully clothed, they weren't being tortured (at least, not that could be told from the videos), but the hawks in the US were noisily appalled: the Geneva Convention forbids such an affront to the dignity of captured soldiers!
Let me repeat that: they were appalled that captured soldiers were being briefly videotaped, with their clothes on. We're not talking 'piled naked on top of one another' or 'savaged by guard dogs' or 'beaten to death in interrogation and then laid out cold while their captors pose smirking over the body'; a comparatively minor breach of Geneva Convention rules was enough to cause these folk outrage.
Three and a half years on, this is where we're at:
While we're here, from the same bill (emphasis mine):
A group of US soldiers took a wrong turn and ran into a larger force of Iraqis. Some were killed in the ensuing fight, and several more were captured in various states of injury.
Saddam's government, which had not yet completely disintegrated, broadcast video of these captives on TV. They were fully clothed, they weren't being tortured (at least, not that could be told from the videos), but the hawks in the US were noisily appalled: the Geneva Convention forbids such an affront to the dignity of captured soldiers!
Let me repeat that: they were appalled that captured soldiers were being briefly videotaped, with their clothes on. We're not talking 'piled naked on top of one another' or 'savaged by guard dogs' or 'beaten to death in interrogation and then laid out cold while their captors pose smirking over the body'; a comparatively minor breach of Geneva Convention rules was enough to cause these folk outrage.
Three and a half years on, this is where we're at:
IN GENERAL.—No person may invoke the Geneva Conventions or any protocols thereto in any habeas corpus or other civil action or proceeding to which the United States, or a current or former officer, employee, member of the Armed Forces, or other agent of the United States is a party as a source of rights in any court of the United States or its States or territories... As provided by the Constitution and by this section, the President has the authority for the United States to interpret the meaning and application of the Geneva Conventions...
While we're here, from the same bill (emphasis mine):
RETROACTIVE APPLICABILITY.—The amendments made by this subsection [which alters definitions of 'torture' et al.], except as specified in subsection (d)(2)(E) of section 2441 of title 18, United States Code, shall take effect as of November 26, 1997...